Saturday, September 13, 2025

Dorthea is Taylor Talking in Code to Her Queer Situationship/Self [Part 2 Braided Songs]

 The songs Mine and Dorthea, from evermore in 2020, are related. And I color coded this one in the same way to show the similarities:



Hey Dorothea


Why the name Dorthea? Is it an actual person? Is the name symbolic? We’ll address this more fully in a second, but here’s a quick summary from AI describing ‘Friend of Dorthy’ which Taylor literally writes herself as in this song:



I believe Taylor is referencing this other person leaving the small town they both grew up in for bigger dreams/fame.Left a small town, and never looked back/

I was a flight risk with a fear of falling. And in Mine the person Taylor wanted to have a relationship with left her and their small town for bigger dreams, while Taylor was too afraid and stayed behind.


Aside from the location of both songs, I think the type of relationship in both songs is similar. In Mine Taylor talks about touching this other person would upset the adults, but she likes it and wants their romance to continue. You put your arm around me for the first time/You made a rebel of a careless man's careful daughter/You are the best thing that's ever been mine. And as we’re about to get into, in Dorthea, Taylor alludes to her and this other person rebelling against proms and pageants.They were pushing back against their parents’/town’s heteronormative expectations in both songs.


I think we can see the similarities between Mine and Dorthea. Now let’s talk about the title of this song. If Taylor is talking to a person she had to sneak around with (discreetly UNDER the bleachers rather than sitting in plain sight) it might be because they’re both girls. Hence the touching making a rebel out of a careless man’s (we all read Scott’s emails, right? 😳) careful daughter. But why is this relationship persecuted?


Using Dorthea (friend of Dorothy) as the title of this song talking to a person Taylor snuck around with, a person who’s very touch made Taylor a rebel, is exactly a subtle way to address another queer person without revealing either one’s queer identity.


And I’ll just leave this here:



Do you ever stop and think about me?

When we were younger

Down in the park


The green happened. Taylor is asking that other person from Mine, the one that put an arm around her by the water, and also laid with Taylor on the couch, if they ever think about her. The person had left their small town (and Taylor) for better things.


Honey, making a lark of the misery


I used the dark pink to show actual things that happened between these two people. Taylor now describes whatever romance/situationship/dalliance as much more casual then she’d hoped and dreamed when it happened (during the song, Mine). Now, Taylor knows that outcome was short and funsy, not the serious happily ever after she’d daydreamed at the time. 


This person and Taylor had some light, superficial fun during a bleak time (the red) in their lives (living repressed and facing persecution in that small town).


You got shiny friends since you left town

A tiny screen's the only place I see you now


I did yellow to denote ‘starry-eyes’ or dreams of bigger things, such as fame. Since those small town days of Mine, this person has made it.


And I got nothing but well wishes for ya


The lavender color is for Taylor (Lavender Haze, if you will). Even though this person left Taylor’s life, Taylor is happy for them.


Oooh This place is the same as it ever was

Oooh But you won't like it that way


The green happened. I think it’s a call-back to the small town where both Taylor and this other person are from. The one with the park for sure, but maybe also the water they sat by where the other person put their arm around Taylor and the couch they were lying on together.


It's never too late To come back to my side

The stars in your eyes 

Shined brighter in Tupelo


Is this other person in Mississippi in real life? Or is Tupelo symbolic of how this other person’s life has ‘played out’ (pun/double entendre intended). According to Wikipedia:


Tupelo has a deep connection to Mississippi's music history, being known as the birthplace of Elvis Presley. The city is home to multiple art and cultural institutions, including the Elvis Presley Birthplace and the 10,000-seat Cadence Bank Arena, the largest multipurpose indoor arena in Mississippi. 


And if you're ever tired of being known

For who you know

You know that you'll always know me

Dorothea Dorothea


Taylor shows she’s open to re-meeting this person, she harbors no hard feelings for them leaving her (and their small town?) to chase their dreams.


Ooh, you're a queen Selling dreams

Selling make-up and magazines

Ooh, from you I'd buy anything


Taylor sings this part to show that this person sells things. The person sells tangible things like makeup and magazines, they also sell inspirational feelings to people via their product (if you buy this makeup you can be beautiful and therefore popular and successful and happy too). 


Taylor indicates the person is persuasive. They are the queen of turning an image into sales (sound familiar to our capitalist queen?)


The last line could be a teeny amount of shade toward the person-from you I’d buy anything. Taylor might be hinting that the person is also selling themselves, chasing clout, convincing people they are something they’re not. And this could even be a comparison to the line in Mine, I was a flight risk with a fear of falling. Taylor is contrasting this person’s selling persona and success to her own fears that held her back.


Hey Dorothea

Do you ever stop and think about me?

When it was calmer


Taylor is obviously thinking about this other person that left her and their hometown. She wonders if likewise, they think about her. 


She also contrasts their lifestyles again-when it was calmer. Taylor indicates starry eyes and city lights are exciting but maybe exhausting too. Being with Taylor and possibly coming back to their home town would be calmer and more peaceful.


Skipping the prom

Just to piss off your mom

And her pageant schemes


The red is problems. Taylor reminds the other person they were rebellious cowboys (so to speak) together. There were heteronormative, popular girl expectations placed on these two (do boys enter pageants?). And these ‘not like the other girl’, alt-girls pushed back against those expectations (instead choosing to throw stones in the water, dancing under the moon all night long, lying on the couch?).


And damn, Dorothea

They all wanna be ya


Taylor is incredulous, impressed, and maybe a bit jealous of this other person’s success and persona. And she indicates this person has fangirls.


But are you still the same soul

I met under the bleachers? Well


Taylor wants to know if this person still rails against heteronormative expectations. Would they still be rebellious together? Are they still compatible?


The bleachers tie back to You Belong with Me. 



OK, don’t get confused but I’m going to throw a third song into this mix of related events. You Belong with Me from the Fearless album in 2008:


…'Cause she doesn't get your humor like I do//And she'll never know your story like I do/But she wears short skirts, I wear T-shirts/She's Cheer Captain, and I'm on the bleachersWalk in the streets with you in your worn-out jeans/I can't help thinking this is how it ought to be/Laughing on a park bench, thinking to myself/"Hey, isn't this easy?"/And you've got a smile that can light up this whole town…You say you're fine, I know you better than that…She's Cheer Captain, and I'm on the bleachers/Dreaming about the day when you wake up and find/That what you're looking for has been here the whole time/If you could see that I'm the one who understands you/Been here all along, so why can't you see?/You belong with me…and you tell me 'bout your dreams/Think I know where you belong, think I know it's with me…All this time how could you not know, baby?/You belong with me, you belong with me/You belong with me/Have you ever thought, just maybe/You belong with me?/You belong with me


Is Taylor talking about the same person in Mine, Hey Dorthea, and You Belong with me? Mine takes place in Taylor’s small home town, and the other person in that song leaves for a bigger life/city/dreams, same as Dorthea did. Also, we have the park referenced in both Dorthea and YBWM. And in YBWM Taylor is NOT the cheerleader, but on the bleachers, and in Dorthea Taylor and this other person are under the bleachers. Same bleachers/high school/small town?


If not the exact same person, Taylor is talking about the same feeling: Transcending her small hometown/life and the heteronormative ideals there, and sharing love with this fellow alt-girl with the big dreams.



We’re going back to the lyrics of Dorthea:


Oooh I guess I'll never know

Oooh And you'll go on with the show


Taylor is wistful here. She’s disappointed they didn’t share the future as she had dreamed, but she’s not mad.


Though there IS some more subtle shade. The word ‘show’ is loaded. Taylor talks about the reality of this other person’s starry-eyed salesmanship continuing. And ‘show’ can be used to indicate this person’s new celebrity-persona is a put-on, fake, phony, tricking the fan girls (Cowboy Like Me?). Not authentic like a life with Taylor would have been.


But it's never too late

To come back to my side

The stars in your eyes

Shined brighter in Tupelo


Another fun fact from the Wiki:


Tupelo is the only city in the Southern United States to be named an All-America City five times, most recently in 2015.[11] 


Miss Americana, anybody?


And if you're ever tired of being known

For who you know

You know you'll always know me


Dorothea Dorothea


Again, Taylor ends the song on a hopeful note:  She tells this other Dorthea person they could still have a future together. If the other person finishes their clout-chasing, they can always come home to Taylor.


In braided fashion, this other person could be an actual ex from Taylor’s past. Also, this other person could be read as showgirl Taylor. Part of herself (poet) stayed behind living a smaller, quieter life, and part sold-out …I took the money/My friends from home don't know what to say



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